Magdalena Pickle Durfee's Ancestors

  Magdalena Pickle Durfee's family origins were known to be German but now we know more of her Palatine ancestors.

Archibald F. Bennett, Secretary and Librarian of the Genealogical Society in this book, "Find your Forefathers in America" has given us in chapter 23 an interesting account of the German Palatines. A history published in 1937 "Early Eighteenth Century Palatine Emigration" was given as a source of information. These people lived in the Rheish or lower Palatine therefore came to be known in history as "Palatines." Several thousand of these Palatines were shipped to New York by the British Government after they had fled there from Germany in a time of war and heavy taxes and religious disagreements in their own country. They had been attracted by the advertising propaganda announcing the rich lands in the new world. They arrived in London between May and November 1709.


The British Government were puzzled to know what to do with them and how to provide them with food and shelter. It was decided to send a large colony to settle along the Hudson River in New York and employ them in making tar and turpentine and naval stores for the British Government. They were to be under the supervision of the Governor of New York who would give them each a grant of land to live on.

Ten ships were chartered to carry 3,300 Palatines to New York. They embarked in Dec 1709, but did not sail until Apr 1710. They were closely packed together and the unwholesome conditions caused much suffering and many deaths. A malady called ship fever, now known as typhus made deadly inroads. Of the 2,814 Palatines who had started on the voyage, 446 had died before they reached New York.

It now became the responsibility of the Governor of New York to provide subsistence for the Palatines. They were encamped in tents on what is now Governor's Island. Typhus carried off about thirty more during the first month, and many children were left orphans. In the fall of 1710 most of the survivors were removed to a place now known as Germantown, Columbia Co., New York where they lived in improvised houses erected by themselves. Many widows lived that winter in New York City. Up until September 12, 1712 Governor Hunter of New York provided the food for the Palatines consisting mostly of bread, meat and beer. After that the Palatines were told that these supplies could not be furnished them and they were forced to shift for themselves. In their destitute condition many of them had to ask relief from the Indians. Some scattered to settlements along the Hudson and some went in to Pennsylvania in the vicinity of Lancaster.

A record of some of these surviving Palatines who lived in the Hudson villages and on the Indian lands in the Schoharie has been preserved and helps to identify those who survived and usually became ancestral heads of families in America.

One of these youthful heads of families was JOHAN PETER WAGONER a great grandfather of MAGDALENA PICKLE on her mother's side. Between 1712 - 1713 this ancestral head of what was to form into a numerous family, removed to the Schoharie Valley and there made his home until he settled at Stone Arabia (Palatine), in the Mohawk Valley, in 1723. Of his seven children, all must have been born on the Hudson and in Schoharie, save the last who was born on the Mohawk.

There is a book in the LDS Genealogical Library "Johan Peter Wagoner, Mohawk Valley Pioneer and his Descendants". It is stated here that Wagoner and others bought land of the Indians in the Mohawk Valley. There is a deed, dated 9 July 1722, signed by representatives of the Mohawks, Onondagas, Oneidas, Cayugas and Senecas.

It conveys a tract on both sides of the Mohagus river for about 24 English miles, and with all the woodland Northerly and Southerly of the said meadow land as far as the said Palatines or High Dutch men please to take. It states that "No wonder the old Mohawk chief, Hendrick, complained of these Germans, --mentioning Wagoner and several other by name-- as having taken up more land then they had paid for. They had obtained 1637 acres of land on the south side of the Mohawk."

Archibald F. Bennett in his book gives the following concerning the records of Peter Wagner's family. "Because of the meager records which have survived those precarious days of pioneering, it is difficult for many families to secure a complete and accurate record of their emigrant ancestor's children. Fortunately, in the case of Col. Wagoner, he had a grand-daughter who married the minister of the Stone Arabia church. When this pastor began his register he was careful to record in detail these facts about his wife's grandfather's family:

Peter Wagner, born in Dockenhausen, Province of Braubach, in Hessen-Darmstadt, Germany, Oct 4, 1687, with his wife Maria Margaretha Laucs, born in Ohren, Itsteiner Land, 1686, have begotten the following children, here in America. Then follows a list of the seven children, with their birth dates and the names of those they married, taken from the records of the Lutheran Trinity Church of Stone Arabia in Palatine, New York. The names of these children are as follows: Anna Margaretha, Maria Catharina, Utilia, CATHARINA ELISABETHA, Maria Magdalena, Johan Peter, and Maria Elisabetha. Johan Peter was the only son of his father, the pioneer. These children were born between the years 1711-1724.

About the year 1750 Johan Peter Wagner, Jr. built a stone residence which is still standing and in good state of preservation. It is said to be the oldest in the state of New York west of Fort Plain. Fort Plain, Stone Arabia and Palatine are in Montgomery Co., New York.

Catherina Elizabetha Wagner, the fourth daughter of Johan Peter, Sr. and Maria Margaretha Loucks of Laucs Wagner married George Salzmann, who were the the parents of MAGDALENA PICKLE'S mother, Magdalena Saltzmann. A. F. Bennett in his book gives their lineage as follows: George Salzmann was undoubtedly the son of George Salzmann, of Stollberg, Saxony, widower of Amalia, who on the 6 February 1718 married Anna Margretha Kaputzgi, daughter of the late Johann Jacob Kaputzgi, formerly a citizen of Erbelheim on the Rhine, duchy of Darmstadt. Jacob's wife was Anna Magdalena. They had another daughter, Anna Dorothea. It is a question whether George, Jr. was the son of Amalia or of the second wife. George, Sr. and Anna Margretha Kaputzgi had a daughter Anna Margretha, born 3 November 1718. So George would have to be at least the second child of this marriage. On the other hand, the names of the children of George, Jr., would tend to indicate he was the second marriage child. Then follows a list of nine children giving the birth dates and part of the marriages. The sixth child, Magdalena, is our Madalena's Pickle mother, her genealogy is given complete except place of death.

An excellent account is also given of her father John Pickle, Jr. In the records he is called John Pickle, Johannes Pickel and also Bikel. The records of the births of their children are found in the registers of the Lutheran Trinity Church of Stone Arabia, in Palatine, Montgomery Co., New York; and also in the Reformed Dutch Registers of Caughnawaga (now Fonda) in the same County. John Peekle and John Peekle Junior are found on the 1790 census of the last name place.

John Pickle, Jr. married Magdalena Saltzmann (daughter of George Saltzmann of Stone Arabia, Montgomery Co., New York) on 8 Jul 1778. Magdalena was the seventh child of this family of thirteen children all recorded on the Stone Arabia church records. She was born 6 Jun 1788.

John Pickle was the son of John and Anna Maria Seeber Pickle. His mother died while he was still young and he was adopted by Johan Kilts.

It seems that after John and Magdalena Pickle's last child Peter was born in 1799 that they made a change of residence to Lincoln, Madision County, New York.

Mrs. Eunice Curtis Record (of Salt Lake City) graduate of a recent genealogical class in American research, is a direct descendant of John and Magdalena Pickle. She has aided much in genealogical research. From C.C. Meyer of Cazenovia, New York she obtained valuable information based on a typewritten copy of biographies of residents of the town of Lincoln, Madison Co., New York compiled by William H. Tuttle, about 1932. According to this, John Pickle came to Lincoln from the Mohawk Valley near Palatine. He died 7 Mar 1815, having made his will 8 Feb 1815. His wife died 1837. From A.F. Bennet's Finding your Forefather in America.

It is elsewhere said of John Pickle that he came to Lincoln about 1800 and settled on Lot 7. This was next to his Uncle Jacob Seeber's land. John Pickle, Jr. sold out to his cousin, Sylvanus Seeber in 1803.

From this excellent research prepared for us by Archibald F. Bennett we now have a record of Magdalena Pickle's parents, her four grandparents on her father's side and on her mother's side a record of four great grandparents and two great great grandparents.

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